Betrayed

[m&m]

Good post, Edwin.
I am going to revert back to the original topic, which is Betrayed. Most of us go through more than one close, intimate relationship in our life, and many times when a relationship breaks down and falls apart, the parties feel let down, or betrayed. I think that is common nature for us to blame the other side in a relationship when things don't go as we have planned, and that can often leave us feeling like we have been betrayed.
Of course there is another kind of betrayal, such as when we are in a marriage, and our spouse has an affair with another person. If you have committed to your spouse that you both will be monogamous, and be faithful to one another, and then one of you is unfaithful, that is definately betrayal.
The ultimate betrayal that I know about is written in the Bible in St.Matthew when Judas betrayed Christ for 30 pieces of silver.

You are right Mr. Magoo and i learn for what you have written here. I always remember the verse in the Bible states that: If i regard iniquity in my heart the Lord will not hear me. And it is very true that your sins will find u out.

[Edwin]

All of us are found guilty before God. We get caught up in things that are not right like David when he sinned with Bathsheba. Nathan the prophet came to him with a message, and told David what he had done. David was repentant, a man after God's own heart, but David still had a heavy price to pay. There is always a price to pay for committing sin. David asked God to Psalm 51:10 "Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me." This is something God has to do for us when we ask Him. It doesn't happen automatically. David was very desirous to be renewed before God.

[purex]

Only Christ can heal our pains. I have experienced that and as i go through life i always experience pain. I am thankful to God for all the friends who are there. Friends are from God and they are there to encourage us.

[Edwin]

Only Christ can heal our pains. I have experienced that and as i go through life i always experience pain. I am thankful to God for all the friends who are there. Friends are from God and they are there to encourage us.

Yes, what would life be without friends. Jesus is a friend that sticketh closer than a brother, or a sister.

[crisipicada]

Sometimes, people put me down when i have problems.

To those who are there for me when i have problems, thanks for being true.

Hope that you continue to be of good heart and listening ear.

[abufarsi]

Golly Gee,

After reading the responses, I thought I mis read the first post on this topic... and I quote...

"1. How many men/women could line up on my wedding day?
2. How many times have i given my heart away in short-term relationships?
3. Will i have anything left to give my husband/wife?
4. Think about the girls/boys in your past. What if they showed up on your wedding day? What could they say in the receiving line? "Hello, dear. Those are the lofty promises you made at the altar today. I hope you're better at keeping promises now than you were when i knew you." Wow, don't you look nice in that tuxedo. And what a beautiful bride. Does she know about me? Have you told her all the sweet things you used to whisper in MY ear?"

The original poster has no forgives in their heart and will fail in their marriage. Marriage is not as much about yesterdays, as it is about todays.

Why would it be important how many times he tried and yet failed in the past, if he was committed to succeeding in the future?

Marriages fail for thousands of reasons, but not among those reasons is that people were planning to fail when they married.

Nobody knows the future, nobody can see into the heart of another. As people grow, mature, they change, and that change is as unpredictable as the weather. It is impossible to predict whether or not any relationship will succeed, whether or not success in one partners eyes will be reflected in the others partners eyes.

The original poster seems to think that marriage is a goal in itself. I can just see the new bride saying to herself "Whew, I thought I would never get married, I have no idea who my husband is but for sure I got one!" In ten years she will be saying "I hate my life, I hate my husband, But my marriage has not failed, SUCCESS!"

I am divorced. Somehow I feel insulted by the original posters mindset. I see no room in her thinking that divorce is often in the best interests of everybody concerned, the wife, husband, the children, the community. Finally an end to a partnership where nobody is partnering any more.

And what about the rest of that promise "to have and to hold", this is about sex right? No room for headaches in her marriage.

This post is a Sunday school classic for pubescent girls, who never loved anybody, including themselves, dreaming of romance and tall handsome rich men... dark wavy hair... deep blue eyes... Not about what should be expected in making a marriage work, dirty diapers, sex with the TV on, quiet intimate breakfasts, wild noisy breakfasts getting the kids off to school, money troubles, gossip, disease, etc. YA, there is romance, but wait the kids have broken the TV.

[crisipicada]

Sorry about your marriage . It is unpredictable whether your marriage work or not. As far as two hearts are committed, I believe that all struggles and problems will be mend. Sometimes it needs a humble heart for both of the partners to accept life's obstacles. Sometimes there must be a guidance from God to keep the family stay together. As the saying goes, " The family that prays together, stays together."

[abufarsi]

your apology rings a little hollow...

"Anna and David through their vows, the unthinkable happened. A girl stood up in the middle of the congregation, walked quietly to the altar, and took David's other hand. Another girl approached and stood next to the first, followed by another. Soon, a chain of six girls stood by him as he repeated his vows to Anna."

It seems obvious that you are suggesting that there are limitations to the human heart. Limits on the availability of love. If there were limits, then past relationships would be a factor. But a marriage to Jane, has little resemblance to a marriage with Girly, or Baby, or Josie, or Shannon. Most lessons learned in previous relationships, are probably person specific as well.

I see you are 17. We all dream at 17. With so little life led, so little of your life developed on your own, deciding on viable paths in life would be difficult in the extreme. I have been there and done that, consider my point of view, please.

My post was not about my marriage, but about forgiveness, tolerance, doing what is right by all. This post did anger me because it reeks of a lack of those traits I see as desirable, in fact I would even argue that sustained marriage is impossible without them.

I refuse to portray divorce as some kind of failure, it is simply the equitable settlement of a past phase of peoples lives.

I have a few regrets about getting a divorce. It was a very great financial loss. It broke my dreams. I still would have married her knowing what I know now. But for sure my life is far better now that I have moved on, and so is her life as well.

Tell me something would you? If a family is not together, how can they pray together? Would it be just as true to say that a family that hates together stays together? Or... a family that murders together stays together? Even better, a family that dies together stays together for the rest of their lives!

[Edwin]

Sometimes, people put me down when i have problems.

To those who are there for me when i have problems, thanks for being true.

Hope that you continue to be of good heart and listening ear.

You know, Crisi, we all have problems of various kinds at various times. I am very sorry that people put you down when you have problems. We need to lift each other up, because we all need to be lifted, and Jesus will help us with that. It is great when we can be an encouragement to each other. I heard someone say years ago, actually at least 40 years ago, that there is nothing more valuable than good friends. He was an older gentleman from our church that we attended, and then I pastored that church later and he was in the congregation. He is long gone many years ago, and his words ring true. The is nothing better than having good friends, and Jesus is the friend that sticks closer than a brother. The love of Jesus in our hearts makes us good friends for each other, and we show that love to each other in encouragement and lifting each other up.

[crisipicada]

Thank you so much for the words of encouragement. I know that it is hard to find a true friend and true friendship is tested in difficulties. When life is difficult, that is the time you will find the true one who will really stay forever even in hardships and difficulties. My father is so good to me even he is so strict to me but now i realize how much he cares for me. I still thinking about my late father and now i am what i am because he cares for me so much and give me instructions and teachings, too. I love you, Papa.