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[mystic]

Hello, maybe it's not the right place here, but I thought to ask this here too, just in case.

Somebody is making a new NGO (non governmental organization) for the defense of human rights. In particular, they will address first the always more common phenomenon of kidnapped children between mixed couples.

As an example, it is very common in the western world, Latin America and Russia that a woman kidnaps her children from her mate (for most of them it is a real business, since thereafter they will ask for money from their ex-mate). Instead, in the Muslim world it is common that the man kidnaps his children from his mate. This leads to a lot of problems, since many countries do not grant a prompt return of the kidnapped child, but instead practically legalize the kidnapping.

If anybody is willing to participate, just drop me a line.

[Edwin]

Mystic, I don't have any special insight on this, but some observations. Often times around here you see picture postures with children's names and pictures on them, telling when they disappeared, and where. I used to think, "how sad about these children being kidnapped." I think what often happens in this country is that a parent will be given custody of a child, and the other parent thinks that is unfair, so they go kidnap their own child, then leave the area, maybe even go to another country, and many times the parent from whom the child is kidnapped doesn't see that child for many years, or maybe even forever. In many cases or even in most case there is no harm coming to the child, but just that the child is with the other parent. Usually in this country, USA, it is the woman who gets custody of the child, and it is the man who kidnaps the child, and then disappears with that child. Usually here it is a matter of a bad relationship, bad marriage, and fighting between a husband and a wife, which is very sad as the children usually are the ones who suffer. Then of course there are times that crimes are commited driven by really hard feelings between a husband and a wife involving the children. It is sad when children are used as pawns in the hands of fighting parents, and they run competition to see who can bribe the child with the best presents/toys, etc. It is sad also when people black mail each other for what they want or need. Of course the father of the child in this country is expected to pay for the keep of their children whether they can see their children or not, and that gives way to lots of hard feelings. The law is on the side of the parent seeking the child support, and the parent can lose his/her driver's license, and also can have wages garnished as well as being put in jail, so it is serious business.

[mystic]

Yes, I think it is a serious problem even when it happens in the same nation. As you point out, in the US the child is usually given to the mother, instead of seeing who is right or wrong. A woman can just say, "I don't love him anymore", and the man is put on a street, loses his children, etc.
After decades of fights for the rights of the woman, now the society is upside down. Instead of reaching equality, we reached unbalance toward the other side. That's why a human rights NGO that promotes true equality is needed to tell the governments their faults.
I learned that the Philippines have severe human rights problems too, because the child is given to the woman until he is 7 years old. Then he can choose. This practically makes the man hostage of the "good will" of the woman. If one finds the bad woman... his life is ruined (without counting the damage done to the child).
I don't believe that the child grows well with anyone of the two parents. The lack of a parent will always come out in one's life and will cause certain imbalances. And because of the regulation in most western countries, there is a real business. Many women just get married and get a child to extort money from the man, "legally".

[crisipicada]

Hey, just got online and write here. I do not have access in the internet for a while since office internet is cut and been staying in the barrio when I moved back last month.

The root of the problem is the problem of the heart. For me, even my parents separated and I do not know what to do, I am thankful that true Christian people are there to back me up when I was so down. I stayed church during my high school for a while when my parents separated.

No matter where the child would be, there is no guarantee that he or she will be okay unless he or she is in the hand of God. But how? If we commit everything to God, and let Him take charge of everything, there is no way for us to worry a lot but we develop trust and be hopeful. It is true that in the Philippines, the custody is to the mother, but it wont guarantee, again, that the child will be in good hands. As the scripture says, "Trained up a child in the way he should go and when he is old, he will not depart from it". It means that while he or she is still a child, he or she must be saturated to the Word of God. Because, the world is full of alluring things that draw his or her faith apart from God. When we lost our standard and conviction, the same as we lose our character. Our Set standard in life is what we become. If we fail, then we fail with our character.

There are many cases I have learned that they argue with the custody of the child. Of course, as parent or as mother or father, we always desire what is best for our child, and as much as possible, we wanted to be with him or her so we can see how he or she grows.

[Edwin]

Yes, mystic in our country, USA it is almost a given that the woman will get the children, and she almost has to be a criminal to lose them to the man. They don't allow the children to decide as young as they do in the Philippines. In the USA a child can decide where they want to live after that child is I think 14 years old; it might be 13 I'm not completely sure. What happened in my sister's family is that she and the father ran competition to each other for years while her little boy and girl twins were growing. They would buy the kids presents and do them favors hoping that they could win the hearts of the kids, and it worked because the twins left my sister and went to live with their father after they got old enough, but it was not all good, and the kids suffered and they are still suffering today.

You are correct, Crisi, the only safe place for the children or anyone is in God's hands. Someone who I was doing business with years ago, after I bought a few honey bees from him, he told me, in this life there are no guarantees, except if you know Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior you have eternal life! Our refuge in God is the only safe place we have!

[m&m]

Hello, maybe it's not the right place here, but I thought to ask this here too, just in case.

Somebody is making a new NGO (non governmental organization) for the defense of human rights. In particular, they will address first the always more common phenomenon of kidnapped children between mixed couples.

As an example, it is very common in the western world, Latin America and Russia that a woman kidnaps her children from her mate (for most of them it is a real business, since thereafter they will ask for money from their ex-mate). Instead, in the Muslim world it is common that the man kidnaps his children from his mate. This leads to a lot of problems, since many countries do not grant a prompt return of the kidnapped child, but instead practically legalize the kidnapping.

If anybody is willing to participate, just drop me a line.

I am not really sure, either, with this kind of situation. As far as I know, both parents of the child desire for the good of the child, right? Is there a chance for both parents to reconcile or make an arrangement how to rare the child?

Most of the time, the child really suffers a lot or be the one who is affected because he or she deserves to have a loving parents. He / she needs affection and care, encourage and nurture him/her with good values etc. He/she needs guidance from both parents to be able to have a stable life.

[cheryz]

Hello, maybe it's not the right place here, but I thought to ask this here too, just in case.

Somebody is making a new NGO (non governmental organization) for the defense of human rights. In particular, they will address first the always more common phenomenon of kidnapped children between mixed couples.

As an example, it is very common in the western world, Latin America and Russia that a woman kidnaps her children from her mate (for most of them it is a real business, since thereafter they will ask for money from their ex-mate). Instead, in the Muslim world it is common that the man kidnaps his children from his mate. This leads to a lot of problems, since many countries do not grant a prompt return of the kidnapped child, but instead practically legalize the kidnapping.

If anybody is willing to participate, just drop me a line.

here in philippines correct me if im wrong, i think there is a non governmental organization its like womens foundation to all women who abuse they may go in there to get some help.

[crisipicada]

Hello, maybe it's not the right place here, but I thought to ask this here too, just in case.

Somebody is making a new NGO (non governmental organization) for the defense of human rights. In particular, they will address first the always more common phenomenon of kidnapped children between mixed couples.

As an example, it is very common in the western world, Latin America and Russia that a woman kidnaps her children from her mate (for most of them it is a real business, since thereafter they will ask for money from their ex-mate). Instead, in the Muslim world it is common that the man kidnaps his children from his mate. This leads to a lot of problems, since many countries do not grant a prompt return of the kidnapped child, but instead practically legalize the kidnapping.

If anybody is willing to participate, just drop me a line.

here in philippines correct me if im wrong, i think there is a non governmental organization its like womens foundation to all women who abuse they may go in there to get some help.

Yes, there is that is what we call Gabriela. I think it is one of the party list in the Philippines. You can count on them and willing to help. But I do not know about he kidnap of children. At this point, what is best to do is to fight for what is really for you.